TheAutoTech's Passat W8 - HeavyW8

[65dunebuggy]

Now i got someone to "borrow" spacers from when i upgrade my brakes

[The_Auto_Tech]

$200 for bolts and spacers...not too shabby. I've been searching myself but there are NONE out there unless you want to buy new. I guess it might be a little harder since I rock a 4 bolt pattern now, who knows.

Now we get to hear you stop bitching about not taking your car anywhere...DRIVE the damn thing already! :p

Yea, I know your pain Jeremy. I searched and searched and searched for a set of used ones, but it's such slim pickings right now on all the forums. Also, trying to find them in the size you want makes it even harder. Most of the time people want just as much as new ones are. I gave up and just bought new ones. Also, it's not helping that ECS is sold out of the popular sizes and the bolts to match, so people are trying to snatch used ones up quickly. Like I said, the Forge ones were the same price as the ECS ones. You could also look into BFI, Ichiba, and H&R. The FK ones are alright, but they only come in 1 bolt pattern which rather sucks, all the others come in 2. Trying to find a used set of 4 bolt ones is going to be harder too I would think. Check ESE Tuning, BFI, ECS, and eBay and see what you can come up with. :)

Dan - are you talking about the spacers I just bought or the old ones? Previous ones were from Loney, 8mm and 20mm H&R's with matching ECS Tuning bolts. I owe him a big favor for letting me borrow them until I get my new ones in and to help figure out what size I wanted to go with. Thanks again Mike. :)

I'm just looking forward to getting these on and being able to use the hubcentric rings again so that I don't get the vibration anymore. Without the spacers it wasn't near as bad but with them it was like 10x worse. lol At least when Jeremy ordered the wheels they sent the nice black plastic hubcentric rings instead of the metal ones. :)

I think after I get this stuff all taken care of I'm going to get the front bumper, hood, and lowers all repainted. After that I'm going to start looking into the balance shaft belt, water pump, serp belt, and serp belt tensioner along with some cooling system mods/upgrades. Can't wait!

[SirRangeALot]

I think after I get this stuff all taken care of I'm going to get the front bumper, hood, and lowers all repainted. After that I'm going to start looking into the balance shaft belt, water pump, serp belt, and serp belt tensioner along with some cooling system mods/upgrades. Can't wait!

I think you should just get this (http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310270) painted instead.

[The_Auto_Tech]

I think you should just get this (http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310270) painted instead.

Very tempting. I guess having a Votex kit would be rather nice. You think I should do the front bumper piece, rear diffuser, and the side skirts?

[SirRangeALot]

You think I should do the front bumper piece, rear diffuser, and the side skirts?

Well he's selling it as a kit, so you wouldn't have a choice. The whole kit 'n' kaboodle or nothing at all. $300 is an amazing deal, and he's local. Even when they were closing the Votex pieces out last year they were $99 a piece. I'd jump on that deal sooner rather than later.

[65dunebuggy]

awesome fucking deal!!! jump on that shit temp

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well he's selling it as a kit, so you wouldn't have a choice. The whole kit 'n' kaboodle or nothing at all. $300 is an amazing deal, and he's local. Even when they were closing the Votex pieces out last year they were $99 a piece. I'd jump on that deal sooner rather than later.

I'll have to look at some more pictures of it to get an idea if I really like it or not. The pieces aren't full replacements are they? Just that they go over top of the factory bumpers and skirts? Would be kind of nice to be able to hide the textured lowers...

[SirRangeALot]

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/joecastro420/Last_Cruize/pic072.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/joecastro420/may_08/IMG_3318.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/bridgw2.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/DSC01488.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/roll3.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/roloin2.jpg

Just food for thought. ;)

The kit goes over the existing lower trim.

[The_Auto_Tech]

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/joecastro420/Last_Cruize/pic072.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/joecastro420/may_08/IMG_3318.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/bridgw2.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/DSC01488.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/roll3.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/Jayson13f/roloin2.jpg

Just food for thought. ;)

The kit goes over the existing lower trim.

Yea, I do like that kit a lot. Methinks I should probably got that way. The thing I like most is that you have a smooth finish instead of the textured lower trim. The other thing is that I was thinking I was going to have to replace the front grills and possibly the bumper to get things straight up there, but from the looks of this it'll hide all the imperfections in the front bumper and sideskirts since it goes over top of all of it. Then I wouldn't need to repaint the sideskirts which would save a bunch of time and money. Any other kits worth looking at?

[Mk4Gasm]

Yea, I do like that kit a lot. Methinks I should probably got that way. The thing I like most is that you have a smooth finish instead of the textured lower trim. The other thing is that I was thinking I was going to have to replace the front grills and possibly the bumper to get things straight up there, but from the looks of this it'll hide all the imperfections in the front bumper and sideskirts since it goes over top of all of it. Then I wouldn't need to repaint the sideskirts which would save a bunch of time and money. Any other kits worth looking at?

Holy ish 300 for a full votex kit? Fuckin jump on that shit...they usually go for 1200 bucks not painted with all pieces...that is one my favorite body kits for any VW!

[The_Auto_Tech]

Holy ish 300 for a full votex kit? Fuckin jump on that shit...they usually go for 1200 bucks not painted with all pieces...that is one my favorite body kits for any VW!

Yea, I'm thinking of jumping on it. Even when they were being clearanced by ECS they were still 400+ shipping. I feel bad for spending so much money, but the problem about that kit is that it's not made anymore, so tracking one down is getting harder. Really can't beat it for the price either. lol I'd have to drive to Chicago to pick it up though unless Jeremy wants to pick it up for me next time he's out that way. :)

[SirRangeALot]

Any other kits worth looking at?

No. Votex is the be all, end all of all other kits. It's the cat's ass. :)

No offense, but less talk and more do! You over-analyze too much! :p


I'd have to drive to Chicago to pick it up though unless Jeremy wants to pick it up for me next time he's out that way. :)

Everything comes with a price. ;) If you're that serious about it let me know. Contact the seller and see what you can do. There are a lot of people interested in it, so act fast.

[The_Auto_Tech]

No. Votex is the be all, end all of all other kits. It's the cat's ass. :)

No offense, but less talk and more do! You over-analyze too much! :p



Everything comes with a price. ;) If you're that serious about it let me know. Contact the seller and see what you can do. There are a lot of people interested in it, so act fast.

Alright, Votex it is then. lol

Jeremy, what are you wanting in return for possibly picking this up? I'm going to register on PassatWorld and try to get ahold of the guy.

[SirRangeALot]

Get ahold of him first, once you guys figure something out we'll talk about it. :)

[The_Auto_Tech]

Get ahold of him first, once you guys figure something out we'll talk about it. :)

Alright. I sent him an e-mail while I was waiting for my account to be activated on PW. I just hit the 5 post count so I'll try PMing him on there too. :)

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well, I decided to make a quick list of what I've done here:

Braking system

Inspect braking system components for leaks and wear
Brake system flushed and re-filled (Castrol GT LMA)
Brake caliper assemblies painted
Brake caliper stands painted
R1 Concepts premium blank style front brake rotors
R1 Concepts premium blank style rear brake rotors
Hawk HPS compound front brake pads (non-brake pad wear sensor style)
Hawk HPS compound rear brake pads
Instrument cluster reprogrammed to remove brake pad wear warning light
Previous brake pad wear sensor pigtail wires clipped and re-installed

Since I didn't use the pads with the wear sensors I used VAG-Com to reprogram the cluster without them. Also, I left the previous pad wear sensor pigtails connected and simply clipped the ends. This way if I (or the next owner) wishes to use pads with the wear sensors they only need to remove the old pigtail from the connector and plug the new ones in. Other than that I think this basically does it.

There's no real way to upgrade the brakes any further from what I've seen. There's an A8 brake upgrade, but that only applies to cars that came with the 1.8T/V6 brakes, and in order to upgrade my brakes further would require some custom machining of parts. The S4 has some brake upgrades, but they're quite expensive and the W8 uses a different rotor than the S4 does so that the wheels have the proper clearance over the brakes/suspension. I guess that wraps it up. lol

[924s]

i think we need a rule where you are limited to 50 words between pictures of the car :)

are you going to have it at eurowerks?

[The_Auto_Tech]

i think we need a rule where you are limited to 50 words between pictures of the car :)

are you going to have it at eurowerks?

lol Sorry, I just like to be thorough.

Unfortunately no, it won't be there this year. Main reason being is that I don't have my spacers and bolts yet, they are on the way. Other reason being is that we've got a lot of empty seats in cars for the trip. Driving the W8 up and back would probably cost be 100 bucks or so, money that I would rather save right now. I've spent enough in the past month really. With brakes, bolts, spacers, oil change, etc. I've spent 1,000 bucks alone. Going to slow down a bit and take it easy here. Also, I may be buying the Votex kit here too, so I'd really like to try and save where I can for right now.

[SirRangeALot]

lol Sorry, I just like to be thorough.

Unfortunately no, it won't be there this year. Main reason being is that I don't have my spacers and bolts yet, they are on the way. Other reason being is that we've got a lot of empty seats in cars for the trip. Driving the W8 up and back would probably cost be 100 bucks or so, money that I would rather save right now. I've spent enough in the past month really. With brakes, bolts, spacers, oil change, etc. I've spent 1,000 bucks alone. Going to slow down a bit and take it easy here. Also, I may be buying the Votex kit here too, so I'd really like to try and save where I can for right now.

You better buy that f*cking votex kit. Your excuses for not taking that car to Eurowerks4 are LAME!! :p ;)

[65dunebuggy]

You better buy that f*cking votex kit.

Or we will have a dbq gtg for kicking Cody2's ass for not buying the deal of the month

[SirRangeALot]

Or we will have a dbq gtg for kicking Cody2's ass for not buying the deal of the month

HEAR HEAR!! :tu: lol

[The_Auto_Tech]

Payment sent. ;) No ass kicking this time!

[SirRangeALot]

YEAY!! :yippee:

[The_Auto_Tech]

I decided at this point that it was now or never for the kit. With him being so close and it being extremely cheap and new in box I knew I wouldn't run into that deal again. Now I just need to figure out when to meet the damn guy. lol

[SirRangeALot]

Now I just need to figure out when to meet the damn guy. lol

Well I can take care of that part for you on Saturday when you hear back from him...

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well I can take care of that part for you on Saturday when you hear back from him...

I just need the address of the place you're going to and the time and we're set! I'll give him your cell number also so that he can make sure he's on time with you.

[The_Auto_Tech]

:D

[65dunebuggy]

:D

explain Cody 2 ???

[The_Auto_Tech]

explain Cody 2 ???

http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm417/templeton_cody/HeavyW8/IMG00139-20100613-2215.jpg

http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm417/templeton_cody/HeavyW8/IMG00138-20100613-2214.jpg

:D

[The_Auto_Tech]

Shitty pictures, but you get the idea. Super excited!

[SirRangeALot]

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/036/765/original/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-WHAT-IS-THIS-I-DONT-EVEN-BLAST-IT-WITH-PISS_1_.jpg

[The_Auto_Tech]

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/036/765/original/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-WHAT-IS-THIS-I-DONT-EVEN-BLAST-IT-WITH-PISS_1_.jpg

Yea, for some reason the directions from one of the boxes had been pee'd on or something. Not sure if the guy who bought the stuff got too excited reading them and pee'd on it or what. lol

[65dunebuggy]

its ok if you pee'd on the directions cody2 and wow those are like the first pics you have posted in the whole thread

[John2.0T]

Nice!

That front clip will look excellent.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Nice!

That front clip will look excellent.

I should have taken some more pictures, but I've got the whole kit, not just the front skirt piece. I bought the entire Votex kit for the car for 300 bucks brand new in box. :)

I usually don't post many pictures because I get too busy installing them before I can take any. lol I got my bolts and spacers in yesterday too, so I'll be installing those tonight probably along with taking the directions out of the boxes and doing some reading on how to install all the pieces. :)

[The_Auto_Tech]

Update!

Yesterday I took my bolts and spacers to work and installed them. The Forge 8mm spacers are non-hubcentric so they can be used on the front or rear of any VW that has 5x100 or 5x112. IIRC the ECS spacers can only be used on the front and not the rear since they are hubcentric. The Forge 10mm spacers are hubcentric, but not to the point that you can't use hubcentric rings with them which is awesome. The ECS 8mm hubcentric spacers would not allow me to use my hubcentric rings on them because of how they were shaped. I was able to install all 4 of the spacers and be able to use my hubcentric rings. Also, the Ichiba 35mm and 40mm bolts worked perfectly. They fit perfect and all threaded in with no issues. If anyone needs to get bolts, I would highly suggest you hop on eBay and order them. 34 shipped is a damn good price and you can get them in about any size and either chrome or black finish and either cone or ball seat. I drove the car easy at first and went up to 75 MPH today with it. Perfectly smooth with no vibrations at all. :) So at least that's all out of the way now.

What I'm working on now is the suspension:

Inspect steering/suspension system components for leaks and wear
Replace OEM steering/suspension system cotter pins with Dorman stainless steel cotter pins
Perform four-wheel alignment (set to factory specifications)
H&R Sport coil springs
Koni Yellow struts
18”x8.5” ET35 offset Mercedes Benz CL63 AMG replica wheels
66.6mm to 57.1mm black plastic hub centric rings
Kumho Ecsta ASX 235/40/18 tires
Forge Motorsport 8mm non-hub centric front wheel spacers
Ichiba 35mm M14x1.5 ball-style seat black front wheel extended lug bolts
Forge Motorsport 10mm hub centric rear wheel spacers
Ichiba 40mm M14x1.5 ball-style seat black rear wheel extended lug bolts

As far as upgrades go, the only things I'm missing would be the 1BE rear sway bar (17mm as opposed to factory 15mm) from the sport suspension and coilovers. Other than that there are no other upgrades for the 4Motion Passats. I'm thinking of picking up a set of FK coilovers, but am still shopping around. I may actually take the car into work and re-align it too. I should be able to add in some negative camber in the back to help keep the car from rubbing but as far as the front goes there's no adjustment for it.

As far as the Votex kit goes that will most likely sit in my spare room for a while until my bodywork friend gets some free time. I'm also kicking around ideas of how to go about installing the kit, what to paint, etc. etc. I need to take the directions out and read over them to try and figure out how it all works yet too.

[Saab900CE]

Sounds like solid plans! Can't wait to see that kit on too.

[Dubtuner]

Will look cool with the kit get on it

[The_Auto_Tech]

Yea, that's what I'm basically working towards at this point. Now that I sold my winter wheels I have a little extra money sitting here. Tomorrow night I'm going to get out all the directions and start reading through them to see what I can figure out.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well, decided to take care of a few small things yesterday and today.

I noticed a couple of the corner light bulbs aren't working anymore so I did an inspection there. Bulbs are simply burnt out and need replaced. Jeremy did a great job of picking out the good Eurocullen bumper marker lenses so I will be keeping those. :) Just need to find some amber LED replacement bulbs for the front and red LED replacement bulbs for the rear, which I will most likely just order from Eurocullen since nobody else seems to sell the 5 LED wedge-type bulbs in the right size.

Also, I noticed one of the license plate lights wasn't working either. Upon inspection I found that the contact in the lens was a bit corroded so I cleaned it up and put in some dielectric grease and it worked fine again. Decided I'd do the other side too but when I went to take out the lens it broke. I tried Mike for one but for some reason VW decided they needed to be different for every car, so I'll have to order one. I also noticed that Jeremy had put the nice blue bulbs in there instead of the regular ones so they look more white than yellow. I'll be ordering a replacement lens today. :)

Along with the above stuff the left turn signal bulb burnt out. I ran to the store and remembered from previous experience that the lighting board simply comes out of the tail lamps on the VW vehicles, so I figured I may as well replace all the bulbs except the reverse ones. I picked up a pack of bulbs to replace the tail/stop lamps and a pack to replace the turn signals and made sure to get the Sylvania Long Life ones so they last a bit longer. The tail/stop lamps are a normal number but holy shit, the turn signals were something like a 17355, which weren't even on the shelf. The guy had to go in the back and dig through the trays to find them. lol I got back home and replaced all 4 tail/stop lamps and the 2 turn signal lamps. I decided to keep the right two stop/tail lamps as it looked like Jeremy had replaced them not too long ago, good for backups. :)

At this point now I'm debating picking up some smoked corners to try out. I know Jeremy tried it before and they didn't fit, but I'm not sure what brand he used so I'll call him about it. Also, I was debating purchasing the LED license plate bulbs, but the cheapest I can find them is 50 dollars for the pair from Ziza, which is way too much.

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Passat_B5-4_Motion-W8/Lighting/LED/ES259645/

If you guys have any suggestions I'd love to hear them. :)

[Mk4Gasm]

Try 42DD for LED lighting

[The_Auto_Tech]

Try 42DD for LED lighting

Nice catch. I'm looking through them now as their LED bulbs seem to be a bit more quality than the ones that came with the smoked bumper corners. The only thing I need to figure out now is whether to get the high intensity LED's or the regular ones. I'm thinking the only place you'd want the high intensity ones would be in the interior, but it's hard to say without seeing them in person.

[SirRangeALot]

At this point now I'm debating picking up some smoked corners to try out. I know Jeremy tried it before and they didn't fit, but I'm not sure what brand he used so I'll call him about it.

I told you I got a set that fit but they didn't match the darkness of the other lenses so I put the stock ones back in. The clear stock ones flow better with the chrome anyway. I bought them from Dubstop.


Try 42DD for LED lighting

That's where I bought the LED's for the city lights.

[The_Auto_Tech]

I told you I got a set that fit but they didn't match the darkness of the other lenses so I put the stock ones back in. The clear stock ones flow better with the chrome anyway. I bought them from Dubstop.



That's where I bought the LED's for the city lights.

Thanks for the info Jeremy. The previous pages in the build thread have helped a lot also.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well, I did some more searching around and found that there is a brake upgrade available to use Touraeg brakes, but unfortunately it requires some custom parts and redrilling some rotors. The idea of this car is to make it able to easily find parts and not making it hard to work on, so I've decided to pass on it. Also, the biggest problem is that the parts alone would run me at least 1500 dollars and there are some issues with vibrations from going from the floating caliper and single piece rotor to the 2 piece rotor and fixed caliper. Also, I checked into the suspension a bit more. I'll be ordering the 17mm rear sway bar here in the next few days. There's two other "upgrades," but they're not much of an upgrade really. There's a company that makes a control arm kit that allows for adjustable camber/caster, but outside of that there's no advantage as far as strength or handling over the stock pieces. Also, there's a set of upgrade tie rod ends that improve over the stock ones but again, besides getting more life out of them they won't make the car handle or turn any better. Basically the arm kit and tie rod ends are there for when the stock ones need replacing. Once my stuff goes bad, I'll use those but for now, it'll just be the rear sway and coilovers. :)

[The_Auto_Tech]

Replying to my own shit again. lol

Finally decided to stick with the brakes I have now after running the cost of "trying" to upgrade them. Not only is it going to require re-drilling rotors and custom caliper brackets, but the calipers themselves are quite pricey and the fact that I need to change steering knuckles that use a different offset, meaning I'd have to change wheels and spacers too. Not worth it for me.

I checked into that control arm kit I found. Realized that they used spherical bushings, bad for a DD. The kit I'll go with is a Meyle kit. It includes the upgraded control arms, HD tie rod ends, HD sway bar links, and all the hardware. Once my stock stuff starts to wear in the front I'll be picking that up. Also, as said above, I'm going to pick up a set of FK HighSport coilovers once they're available again through ECS. To go with that, I'll be getting the 1BE sport suspension rear sway bar. I was told to re-use my stock bushings and links because they apparently fight tighter on the bar and that the links are already pretty HD and that generally the poly bushings wear out faster and will make more noise than the stock ones. The bar I'll just order from a VW parts dealer and the control arm kit and FK's will probably come from ECS or something.

[Jameson250s]

cool

[The_Auto_Tech]

cool

Thanks bro.

[Saab900CE]

Replying to my own shit again. lol

Finally decided to stick with the brakes I have now after running the cost of "trying" to upgrade them. Not only is it going to require re-drilling rotors and custom caliper brackets, but the calipers themselves are quite pricey and the fact that I need to change steering knuckles that use a different offset, meaning I'd have to change wheels and spacers too. Not worth it for me.

I checked into that control arm kit I found. Realized that they used spherical bushings, bad for a DD. The kit I'll go with is a Meyle kit. It includes the upgraded control arms, HD tie rod ends, HD sway bar links, and all the hardware. Once my stock stuff starts to wear in the front I'll be picking that up. Also, as said above, I'm going to pick up a set of FK HighSport coilovers once they're available again through ECS. To go with that, I'll be getting the 1BE sport suspension rear sway bar. I was told to re-use my stock bushings and links because they apparently fight tighter on the bar and that the links are already pretty HD and that generally the poly bushings wear out faster and will make more noise than the stock ones. The bar I'll just order from a VW parts dealer and the control arm kit and FK's will probably come from ECS or something.

Where are my cliff notes?

[The_Auto_Tech]

Where are my cliff notes?

Almost forgot.

Staying with stock brakes. Upgrade not cost effective. Going with Meyle HD control arm/tie rod/sway bar link kit and 1BE 17mm rear sway bar. FK's will be ordered once they're back in stock.

[Saab900CE]

Almost forgot.

Staying with stock brakes. Upgrade not cost effective. Going with Meyle HD control arm/tie rod/sway bar link kit and 1BE 17mm rear sway bar. FK's will be ordered once they're back in stock.

Excellent cliff notes!

HD bushings should keep things good to go for a long time. Hopefully you'll get a little better corning with the sway bar too. FK's will be sweeeeeeeet on there cause it definitely is in the need of MOAR LOW!

[The_Auto_Tech]

Excellent cliff notes!

HD bushings should keep things good to go for a long time. Hopefully you'll get a little better corning with the sway bar too. FK's will be sweeeeeeeet on there cause it definitely is in the need of MOAR LOW!

lol Thanks.

Yea, I'll most likely need the HD arms and tie rod ends once I do get the FK's anyways. Some of the guys said that it puts some extra strain on the control arm bushings to lower it which I can understand. I'm sure the sway bar will help too. At least once I get the FK's I can decide how low I want to be with it, but those are on back order for now so I'll have to wait a bit for them. At this point I'm just trying to get everything figured out of what to buy before I actually do buy it. :P

[Dubtuner]

I would get the 034 density line control arms they are a good deal and i know somebody who can get em lol. Im probly gonna use them from now on as they are cheaper than the fcp kits and i believe cheaper than the meyle and just as good.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Hey Andy, where do you see the control arm kits on their website? I'm looking and not seeing any. Doesn't FCP Groton actually sell the Meyle kits? The only reason I know the Meyle HD kits are good is because a ton of the Passat guys run them.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Wow, I haven't touched this for 2 months. lol

Anyways, just an update to let everyone know what's going on. I currently have the complete Votex kit sitting in my storage garage with the car. Most likely it will be getting painted and installed within the next couple of months. Also, I have a new (used) set of W8 headlights that I was able to pick up for 218 shipped. They came complete with ballasts and bulbs, so it was a good deal and they have no scratches, just need to be hit with the 3M headlight restoration kit and installed.

I'm still researching my suspension setup as it's been changing over a few months now. I was able to find some other upgrades to do, just trying to make it all final and figure out where to order it all from to save the most money. I'm also looking into changing oils as I feel the Mobil 1 0W-40 European car formula is a bit too thin. Thinking of going to Mobil 1 Delvac ESP 5W-40 after reading about it on the W8 forum. A fellow W8 owner reported that it was doing a better job than his previous ELF synthetic 5W-40 after just one oil change. Shear numbers and contamination was down quite a bit from the ELF which was surprising for an oil that was reported to be used for heavy-duty diesel semi's and construction equipment. I'll let you guys know how that goes as the oil change and other stuff probably won't happen for a couple of months. Been busy with the girlfriend's car lately and don't want to try and overlap work.

At this point as far as suspension it's looking like this:

ST Coilovers
H&R 32mm front sway bar
OEM Sport suspension 17mm rear sway bar
Audi S4 rear tie bar
Meyle HD upgraded S4 control arm kit (with hardware)
B5.5 Passat upgraded full metal outer tie rod ends

Also, I may be able to use a snub mount from a 1.8T Passat. They are apparently the same size as the W8 snub mount. Other than that it's still up in the air. Still trying to piece things together.

[SirRangeALot]

You forgot your mandatory Jordan cliff notes.

[The_Auto_Tech]

You forgot your mandatory Jordan cliff notes.

Jordan Cliff Notes -

Your tattoo looks good and I can't wait to see you again and throw my arms around you.

That is all.

[Saab900CE]

Jordan Cliff Notes -

Your tattoo looks good and I can't wait to see you again and throw my arms around you.

That is all.

I missed your entire update up to here. Something tells me that's not what you really said but... I'll have to take your word for it because that is far to much for me to read right now. That being said...

I miss you too Cody. Next time you see me I might even have more ink for you to look at.

[The_Auto_Tech]

I missed your entire update up to here. Something tells me that's not what you really said but... I'll have to take your word for it because that is far to much for me to read right now. That being said...

I miss you too Cody. Next time you see me I might even have more ink for you to look at.

lol When's the next time you'll be up here? You should bring the Saab, I still haven't gotten to take a good look at it.

[Dubtuner]

Id go with the 034 control arms as they are the same price as meyle and made of stiffer stronger rubber.

[OrangeDUB]

Cody, people like to see pics, not read a bunch of shit that would take at least 10 minutes. DO YOU KNOW WHAT 10 MINUTES IS IN INTERNET TIME?? THAT'S LIKE 65 MINUTES!

[The_Auto_Tech]

Cody, people like to see pics, not read a bunch of shit that would take at least 10 minutes. DO YOU KNOW WHAT 10 MINUTES IS IN INTERNET TIME?? THAT'S LIKE 65 MINUTES!

lol I understand. I've always been bad about getting pictures up. I plan on getting some pictures here once I get the car back out. I need to do some measuring for the snub mount and Audi tie bar to make sure they will work for my car. I plan on getting some pictures for before and after the Votex kit so people can see the difference. That'll just give me motivation to start doing things. lol I should put up pictures of Grace's car as it's the car I get the most work done on. lol

[Saab900CE]

lol When's the next time you'll be up here? You should bring the Saab, I still haven't gotten to take a good look at it.

Tomorrow I will be actually. But it's all for shit to be done on the VR and not really for liesure.

Other then tomorrow... I have no idea. Probably not for awhile.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Well, an update to this.

I've decided to sell the car for a few different reasons, namely some lingering memories and the fact I'd rather sell it and have the money at this time. I'm making some big changes in life and could use the money for the next couple months rather than the car. Of course this is not before installing 2 new coolant temp sensors and o-rings purchased from Ciocca Parts. Also, when I change the sensors I'll be doing a coolant flush and putting some fresh Pentosin Pentafrost in. Should be the only thing I need to take care of before selling the car.

If anyone is interested in purchasing the car you can contact me at 563-590-5687 or leave a message on here. I would like to see it go to a good owner as it's been well cared for by myself and the previous owner. Thanks for all your support guys. :)

[Aphawki]

Would it be wrong to resurrect this post? But only if I happen to have this car sitting in my driveway???

[The_Auto_Tech]

Haha, nah, it's cool. At the time I sold it it was bad memories from a previous relationship. Part of me would enjoy having it back, but part of me says I like my S4 better. lol

[Aphawki]

Ah gotcha! Being in the car business my everyday seems to be made up of bad past memories sometimes!

[SirRangeALot]

It was originally mine for over 4 years. Hope you're taking good care of it. :)

[Aphawki]

Drove it in the snow tonight to check out the AWD....FYI...works fine.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Drove it in the snow tonight to check out the AWD....FYI...works fine.

4Motion works well, but Quattro FTW. :)

[Aphawki]

Oh yes...big Quattro fan.

[SirRangeALot]

Drove it in the snow tonight to check out the AWD....FYI...works fine.

Would be even more epic had someone not sold the stock wheels with blizzaks... :nono: lol

[Aphawki]

Yeah no joke. We should talk to that guy.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Yeah no joke. We should talk to that guy.

Don't worry, he's long gone. He currently has stock wheels with snow tires and drives his vehicle in the snow. :)

[Dubtuner]

Passat 4 motion is basically Quattro Just re badged as u cant have a Quattro badge on a vw.

[Mk4Gasm]

Easy reference

Longitudinal: Torsen AWD
Transverse: Haldex AWD

One is full-time AWD with more than 10% power to the rear, one is not! Simple!

[The_Auto_Tech]

Easy reference

Longitudinal: Torsen AWD
Transverse: Haldex AWD

One is full-time AWD with more than 10% power to the rear, one is not! Simple!

Also, Haldex is an electronic rear differential whereas Quattro/4Motion is mechanical (for the most part). Quattro/4Motion for the longest time was 60/40 split, but I believe they are all now 40/60.

[TiMAN]

Derp. Lotta people need to educate themselves on Quattro.

Unless you have the sport 4:1 diff (also called Torsen 3 or T3, is 40F:60R when in default) you will never be able to send more than 60 percent to the front or the rear. The 4:1 will be able to send up to 80 percent to the front or the rear. The standard dynamic split is a 50:50 (called Torsen 2 or T2) when in "default". You will have a 40/60,50/50,60/40 split and whatever else is in between when it starts thinking. It transfers to whatever end has more grip...Quattro also has electronic differential locks.

All 6 speed Quattros with the Torsen system get a damn near bullet proof Getrag Transmission (minus some weak points in the syncros or collars in some years).

Haldex has NONE of this...

To the owner with the W8. You can be happy that you have the "original" and the only "good" system. I'd rather have an old Mitsubishi (DSM) setup than something with a Haldex. Haldex just isn't that good, regardless of what people with R:.s or TTs say.

I'm kinda pissed as a diehard Audi fan that they let the first and second gen TT, and A3s wear the Quattro badge because they haven't "earned" it like the original torsen system did.

-Dan

[SirRangeALot]

I will be happy when this thread gets buried again. Just sayin'. :(

[Mk4Gasm]

Derp. Lotta people need to educate themselves on Quattro.

Unless you have the sport 4:1 diff (also called Torsen 3 or T3, is 40F:60R when in default) you will never be able to send more than 60 percent to the front or the rear. The 4:1 will be able to send up to 80 percent to the front or the rear. The standard dynamic split is a 50:50 (called Torsen 2 or T2) when in "default". You will have a 40/60,50/50,60/40 split and whatever else is in between when it starts thinking. It transfers to whatever end has more grip...Quattro also has electronic differential locks.

All 6 speed Quattros with the Torsen system get a damn near bullet proof Getrag Transmission (minus some weak points in the syncros or collars in some years).

Haldex has NONE of this...

To the owner with the W8. You can be happy that you have the "original" and the only "good" system. I'd rather have an old Mitsubishi (DSM) setup than something with a Haldex. Haldex just isn't that good, regardless of what people with R:.s or TTs say.

I'm kinda pissed as a diehard Audi fan that they let the first and second gen TT, and A3s wear the Quattro badge because they haven't "earned" it like the original torsen system did.

-Dan

I simply stated that a longitudinal engine will be Torsen and Haldex is one that is transverse...and to avoid overly technical arguments such as the one you just posted I sort of made a "blanket definition" for each because there are people who will take my simple statement to specifics.

Tl;dr
Haldex = transverse quattro/4motion
Torsen = longitudinal quattro/4motion

Carry on...


Cody, is this the guy you sold the W8 to? I thought you said something about him working at IBM in Dubuque

[The_Auto_Tech]

I simply stated that a longitudinal engine will be Torsen and Haldex is one that is transverse...and to avoid overly technical arguments such as the one you just posted I sort of made a "blanket definition" for each because there are people who will take my simple statement to specifics.

Tl;dr
Haldex = transverse quattro/4motion
Torsen = longitudinal quattro/4motion

Carry on...


Cody, is this the guy you sold the W8 to? I thought you said something about him working at IBM in Dubuque

Nope. The guy I sold it to did work at IBM and lived in Cedar Rapids IIRC. My guess is that he traded it in to this guy.

[OrangeDUB]

Nope. The guy I sold it to did work at IBM and lived in Cedar Rapids IIRC. My guess is that he traded it in to this guy.

I saw a woman driving it last fall

[The_Auto_Tech]

I saw a woman driving it last fall

Possibly his wife. She was there as well when I sold it.

[65dunebuggy]

http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/ctd/2885667783.html

[OrangeDUB]

Aww not keeping it after all :(

...or feeling out the market.

[The_Auto_Tech]

Good thing he took my build thread list.

[SirRangeALot]

Good thing he took my build thread list.

No shit. The fuck... :screwy: