stand alone question

[IDG4EVER]

ok.. i got a stand alone system from 034motorsports. it is supposed to be the best..

what i need is someone who knows how to tune this type of system. can someone help me..

i just moved here from cali. if i were still there , i have a great shop in cali.. please let me know..


HELP!!!!!:banghead :banghead :banghead

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jeff? are you any help at this? (he prob wont see this till the morning)

[IDG4EVER]

Anything at all will help... This monster needs to be unleashed...

[Loccusst]

From Cali to M-Town......interesting. I went to school in Marshalltown. My parents still live there as do my inlaws. Welcome aboard dude.

[IDG4EVER]

:banghead :banghead THANKS MAN.. i hope to get back into the euro scene here.. in cali it is big.. we had meets/ g2g's at least once a week.. I love cars.. especially dubs... its a sickness hardly no one understands.. if i wanted life easy, i guess i would of bought a honda.. hahaha... no im a stubborn sob that likes driving a natzi car.. lol.. hope to get to know nuts like me..

[Head at JJperf]

Only standalone work I have done is my track car but I have not got tuning right on it yet either...I have a friend that is good with tuning but he is on an intership with Lockheed/Martin this semester. If Sublime speed shop in omaha is still around they were pretty good....what ems are you using? Motec, autronic, haltech?

[IDG4EVER]

Only standalone work I have done is my track car but I have not got tuning right on it yet either...I have a friend that is good with tuning but he is on an intership with Lockheed/Martin this semester. If Sublime speed shop in omaha is still around they were pretty good....what ems are you using? Motec, autronic, haltech?

IM ACTUALLY USING 034 MOTORSPORT.. CHECK THEM OUT.. 034MOTORSPORT.COM.. THE UNIT I HAVE IS THE IIC.. YOU CAN CONTROL TIMING AND FUEL.. I HAVE INDIVIDUAL COILS AND 80LB INJECTORS.. THE CAR RUNS BUT IT IS HARD TO START AND RUNS VERY RICH.. BEFORE I GET ON IT (THE THROTTLE) I WANT TO BE SURE IT IS READY.. HALTECH AND MOTECH ARENT TOO FRIENDLY TO THE 6 CYLINDER CROWD.. THE PROGRAM I HAVE YOU CAN RUN 1 TO 12 CYLINDERS..

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:D :D hey jeff, he says it runs rich, what do you know about cars running rich.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..... big black stains above the exhaust come to mind lol

[Head at JJperf]

IM ACTUALLY USING 034 MOTORSPORT.. CHECK THEM OUT.. 034MOTORSPORT.COM.. THE UNIT I HAVE IS THE IIC.. YOU CAN CONTROL TIMING AND FUEL.. I HAVE INDIVIDUAL COILS AND 80LB INJECTORS.. THE CAR RUNS BUT IT IS HARD TO START AND RUNS VERY RICH.. BEFORE I GET ON IT (THE THROTTLE) I WANT TO BE SURE IT IS READY.. HALTECH AND MOTECH ARENT TOO FRIENDLY TO THE 6 CYLINDER CROWD.. THE PROGRAM I HAVE YOU CAN RUN 1 TO 12 CYLINDERS..

Haltechs do great on 6s I know quite a few nissan guys that use e11s on RB series 6 cyl engines and motech is the primary standalone for the NSX boys

80 lb injectors are HUGE what the hell do you need that big of an injector for? what is your duty cycle? and what are your pulse durations? and what are your 02 voltages?

[IDG4EVER]

Haltechs do great on 6s I know quite a few nissan guys that use e11s on RB series 6 cyl engines and motech is the primary standalone for the NSX boys

80 lb injectors are HUGE what the hell do you need that big of an injector for? what is your duty cycle? and what are your pulse durations? and what are your 02 voltages?

see im glad ur smarter than i.. i had a custom chip installed for a long tim the car ran fine.. after getting the fmic, i decided i wanted more.. the next step was stand alone.. i got a good deal on the unit and hope to someday get 500hp... i dont know the answers to your questions.. if i knew more about the system i would have the car running alot better.. can you do it?? are you up to it or can you tell me who can.. thanks man

haltechs program is nothing compared to what i have... check out the web site.. 034motorsport.com///

[Gee Tea Eye V]

mmm horsies

[Head at JJperf]

I may be able to do a little but I don't know anything about the interface or navigation within the system

as a side I looked at the feature chart and it does everything my Haltech E6X does except I have onboard datalogging and more configurable inputs and outputs

is there a downloadable version of the program to config that thing? I can look at it and see if there is anything I can do...you are also coming into a bad time of year because if you tune it in this weather there is little doubt it will run fucked up when it gets warmer...

a few questions for you
are you running a wideband o2 sensor?
do you have a rising rate fuel pressure regulator?
what type of boost pressure are you running?

[IDG4EVER]

I may be able to do a little but I don't know anything about the interface or navigation within the system

as a side I looked at the feature chart and it does everything my Haltech E6X does except I have onboard datalogging and more configurable inputs and outputs

is there a downloadable version of the program to config that thing? I can look at it and see if there is anything I can do...you are also coming into a bad time of year because if you tune it in this weather there is little doubt it will run fucked up when it gets warmer...

a few questions for you
are you running a wideband o2 sensor?
do you have a rising rate fuel pressure regulator?
what type of boost pressure are you running?

i have all the software.. i am running wideband.. i am using a stock type fuel pressure reg.. i also have the rising type. the normal one is installed.. right now i have the 8lb pulley.. i also have the 14lb.. the 8 is installed.. according to the info i have, once you tune the program. it should adjust it self. it reads barrometric pressure, vaccum, coolant temp and wide band..

if you can help any.. i will thank you..

[IDG4EVER]

I may be able to do a little but I don't know anything about the interface or navigation within the system

as a side I looked at the feature chart and it does everything my Haltech E6X does except I have onboard datalogging and more configurable inputs and outputs


i honestly dont know too much about Haltech.. I want to learn all this.. any knowledge will help.

[Head at JJperf]

do you know what size the stock injectors are and is there a place I can download the software and see how it looks and how it can be navigated? what wideband are you using and is it running on a seperate gauge or is setup as an input on the standalone?

[DMmagazine]

i have all the software.. i am running wideband.. i am using a stock type fuel pressure reg.. i also have the rising type. the normal one is installed.. right now i have the 8lb pulley.. i also have the 14lb.. the 8 is installed.. according to the info i have, once you tune the program. it should adjust it self. it reads barrometric pressure, vaccum, coolant temp and wide band..

if you can help any.. i will thank you..



Ok here we go.............

First and foremost. The 80lb injectors are to much. Way to much man. Unless you are going for 500-600 horse you will dump to much fuel into the motor and begin to wash the cylinders. Washing means all the oil will begin to break down and not provide the lubrication that it needs. A very bad thing. Get smaller injectors and go from there.

Another problem with the bigger injectors is the idle. Idle will be horriable. You will end looking like a diesel at a stop light because you cant control them very well. If its a track car than no worry there, but I dont think it is??

Second, the rising rate fuel pressure regulator. That needs to go. There are to many things going on with the fuel system. Eliminate that and that should help with a few things.

Tuning is really no big deal. There are a few things that you must understand before you begin the process.....

One thing to keep in mind is remember....VW has spent years,,,,years,,,to devolpe a way for timing and fueling to be perfect. You are trying to do something in a few weeks what they have spent years on. Just remember that.


The basic understanding of fuel and timing are important. Im not calling you stupid but I have seen this alot. Once you begin to understand the workings its child play.

034 came with basic maps to get the car up and running. They shouldnt be that far off. I will tell you right know that the idle numbers will have to lowered from where they are.

As timing is increased fuel is decreased. As fuel is increased timing is decreased. You need a Wide Band and a EGT. As temps rise fuel need to be added. If the temps are say...

At 4500 and 6psi...Temps are 1150

You have to much fuel.


If you need more help let me know. I can go on for days.

Calvin
DM Magazine

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